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Can Gallstones Cause Pain Under The Right Rib Cage?

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Posted on Tue, 2 Aug 2016
Question: Yes. I have been having a couple of symptoms and wonder if I am having a problem with my gall bladder. I have had stomach cramps all week long. I have long thought I had IBS, but basically, I can feel a liquid being streamed into my stomach, cramps begin and then I have a bowel movement, usually ending with whatever I have just eaten or it floats as if it is oily. There have been times in the area under my right rib cage, it seems as if a muscle seizes up. It is incredibly painful and I have to just wait for it to release. I would describe it as a muscle cramp, but I know this is either my gall bladder or liver (pancreas?). I have been in bed 3 days with stomach cramps. I just ate and this area is hurting again. I have eaten very little in 3 days for fear of the pain with the cramps. Any idea on what I should do, or suggestions would be appreciated. XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Mukund Savaskar (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Cramps under right ribs/ Under Evaluation

Detailed Answer:
Hi Dear !! Thanks for your query to HCM .
Read and reviewed your query in context to your complex health concerns.
I reviewed the medicines list you are on.

My opinion-..............?IBS ? gall stone colick? bile sludge induced colicks with diarrhoea?It could also be due to accompanied pineal gland cyst./ or could be from accompanied combination of medicines,which needs to be ruled out with attending doctor, in your case.

In the given situation-You seem to suffer from-IBS with ?gall sludge?Gall stones.
Dear,it seems the food induced infection or the concentrated bile acid with bile sludge would be causing streaming of liquid with cramps followed with diarrhoea
The floating stool confirms the fat contents in the passed stool.
The highly concentrated bile sludge,could be presenting with muscle cramps but in actual caused from gall bladder colick.
It seems from your complaints,that you are on fried/spicy/nonveg diet lately for last few weeks,which has been causing IBS like complaints.
Complex complaints seem to be caused from bile acid diarrhoea.
This could be from food induced IBS with enteritis accompanied with it.Or could be from gall sludge with dyspepsia with gall bladder colick.
Other causes like giardiasis / amoebiasis/ yeast-candidial infection needs to be ruled out.
Consults with GI Specialist with GI Surgeon would be needed to fix these health issues.


Do's suggested-
Get Consults with GI Surgeon to assess clinically and physically to fix causes of the crampy pains under right ribs after eating diet.
Stool-ova/cyst and CT abdomen with HIDA scan if need be needs to be done to rule out gall stone and bile sludge causing these complaints.
Get blood lipids to rule out high cholesterol causing high bile acid sludge.

Bland liquid diet with low fats /low protein diet and with rice / potato porridge x for 3-4 week.
Plenty of fluids.
Antibiotics with anti-amoebic/anti-giardial drugs with Anti-spasmodic medicines to control the IBS like complaints
Tab Lactobacillus-ds-1 x 2 times a day x 4 weeks.
Multivitamines with minerals like magnesium,zinc etc with Vit D3 / with Calcium with Vit B12/ Folic acid needs to be given for 3-4-weeks time to recoupe the sever IBS(Irritable Bowel Syndrome)
All medicines to be got with script from family doctor,to resolve local non-availability from OTC/generic conflict.
Avoid taking Brewed yeast in beer/ and Avoid bakery products to control yeast loads causing candidial infection causing IBS like complaints in your case.
If bile acid sludge is confirmed causing bile acid diarrhoea, XXXXXXX of Cholestyramine -a resin to bind bile acids would reduce bile acid induced diarrhoea,which would resolve the cramps under right rib in your case.
Treatment on the lines suggested would recoup you 4 weeks,after stabilizing IBS caused from either food induced infection / or from high bile induced flood after fried / spicy/nonveg diet.
This treatment would give long remissions from recurring IBS,Which you suffer from.
Accompanied pineal cyst could be a cause of these complaints and needs to be kept in mind in your case.
GI specialist / with General Surgeon/nutritionist would be needed to tackle these health issues.
Other causes like Crohn's disease/ Ulcerative Colitis/ and Diverticulosis/ Polyposis Coli -needs to be ruled out by physical / and lab check ups from Specialist GI endoscopist and GI Surgeon.

Further suggestions in this regard would need more information /investigations after getting more details from You.

This brief reply is given on facts submitted, which needs to be verified from your attending doctors, with whom you can check before starting further changes in the treatment.

Hope this would help you to plan further treatment of this complex illness of yours.

If need be, update any health issue 24 x 7 by a direct question to ME, at following HCM link-http://doctor.healthcaremagic.com/Funnel?page=askDoctorDirectly&docId=70229

Dear, if satisfied,Don't forget to close this query with YOUR pleasing feedback comments to rate this reply and service, to boost the morale of incoming Emergency patients like YOU, at HCM services.

If you want to update more details and ask more update queries ,
You are most Welcome herewith !!

Good Day!!

Wishing Good Healthy Life in time to come!!

Dr.Savaskar M.N. XXXXXXX Surgical Specialist
M.S.Genl-CVTS
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Can Gallstones Cause Pain Under The Right Rib Cage?

Brief Answer: Cramps under right ribs/ Under Evaluation Detailed Answer: Hi Dear !! Thanks for your query to HCM . Read and reviewed your query in context to your complex health concerns. I reviewed the medicines list you are on. My opinion-..............?IBS ? gall stone colick? bile sludge induced colicks with diarrhoea?It could also be due to accompanied pineal gland cyst./ or could be from accompanied combination of medicines,which needs to be ruled out with attending doctor, in your case. In the given situation-You seem to suffer from-IBS with ?gall sludge?Gall stones. Dear,it seems the food induced infection or the concentrated bile acid with bile sludge would be causing streaming of liquid with cramps followed with diarrhoea The floating stool confirms the fat contents in the passed stool. The highly concentrated bile sludge,could be presenting with muscle cramps but in actual caused from gall bladder colick. It seems from your complaints,that you are on fried/spicy/nonveg diet lately for last few weeks,which has been causing IBS like complaints. Complex complaints seem to be caused from bile acid diarrhoea. This could be from food induced IBS with enteritis accompanied with it.Or could be from gall sludge with dyspepsia with gall bladder colick. Other causes like giardiasis / amoebiasis/ yeast-candidial infection needs to be ruled out. Consults with GI Specialist with GI Surgeon would be needed to fix these health issues. Do's suggested- Get Consults with GI Surgeon to assess clinically and physically to fix causes of the crampy pains under right ribs after eating diet. Stool-ova/cyst and CT abdomen with HIDA scan if need be needs to be done to rule out gall stone and bile sludge causing these complaints. Get blood lipids to rule out high cholesterol causing high bile acid sludge. Bland liquid diet with low fats /low protein diet and with rice / potato porridge x for 3-4 week. Plenty of fluids. Antibiotics with anti-amoebic/anti-giardial drugs with Anti-spasmodic medicines to control the IBS like complaints Tab Lactobacillus-ds-1 x 2 times a day x 4 weeks. Multivitamines with minerals like magnesium,zinc etc with Vit D3 / with Calcium with Vit B12/ Folic acid needs to be given for 3-4-weeks time to recoupe the sever IBS(Irritable Bowel Syndrome) All medicines to be got with script from family doctor,to resolve local non-availability from OTC/generic conflict. Avoid taking Brewed yeast in beer/ and Avoid bakery products to control yeast loads causing candidial infection causing IBS like complaints in your case. If bile acid sludge is confirmed causing bile acid diarrhoea, XXXXXXX of Cholestyramine -a resin to bind bile acids would reduce bile acid induced diarrhoea,which would resolve the cramps under right rib in your case. Treatment on the lines suggested would recoup you 4 weeks,after stabilizing IBS caused from either food induced infection / or from high bile induced flood after fried / spicy/nonveg diet. This treatment would give long remissions from recurring IBS,Which you suffer from. Accompanied pineal cyst could be a cause of these complaints and needs to be kept in mind in your case. GI specialist / with General Surgeon/nutritionist would be needed to tackle these health issues. Other causes like Crohn's disease/ Ulcerative Colitis/ and Diverticulosis/ Polyposis Coli -needs to be ruled out by physical / and lab check ups from Specialist GI endoscopist and GI Surgeon. Further suggestions in this regard would need more information /investigations after getting more details from You. This brief reply is given on facts submitted, which needs to be verified from your attending doctors, with whom you can check before starting further changes in the treatment. Hope this would help you to plan further treatment of this complex illness of yours. If need be, update any health issue 24 x 7 by a direct question to ME, at following HCM link-http://doctor.healthcaremagic.com/Funnel?page=askDoctorDirectly&docId=70229 Dear, if satisfied,Don't forget to close this query with YOUR pleasing feedback comments to rate this reply and service, to boost the morale of incoming Emergency patients like YOU, at HCM services. If you want to update more details and ask more update queries , You are most Welcome herewith !! Good Day!! Wishing Good Healthy Life in time to come!! Dr.Savaskar M.N. XXXXXXX Surgical Specialist M.S.Genl-CVTS