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How Is Alzheimer's Disease And Senile Dementia Diagnosed?

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Posted on Tue, 23 Sep 2014
Question: How do physicians diagnose someone with Alzheimer's versus typical senile dementia? I have read that the only way to be sure, based on current definitions, is post mortem...as you look for the tau and neurofibrillary tangles. But in someone who is living, how does one distinguish? is the rapidity of onset? I know that people who display symptoms earlier in life, say in their 60's, are more likely to be diagnosed with Alzheimer's. I ask because my grandmother was a very sharp person at the age of 88. Starting about a year ago, she has become so forgetful, that she doesn't even remember if you visited her or what she had for lunch. She asks the same questions over and over again. She is now considered a patient with dementia. The thing that has always bothered me is that it was a very abrupt onset. Within a matter of months she went from someone who remembered everything (especially anything related to numbers) to someone who had the memory problems I described above. She was very intelligent. As I understand it microvascular changes happen gradually over time. Could it be she had a small stroke in a particular area of the brain? One other thing I wonder about: there was a period when she was so much pain that they gave her Demerol on a prn basis. But, after a while, they began giving to her at regularly scheduled doses. (she's in a nursing facility). Once they began that, with a GRF of about 30, I assume the metabolite accumulated and she had a seizure. She's been on Keppra ever since. However the dementia-like symptoms did not start then. It was several months later. I am curious to an experts opinion of what is going on with my grandmother. By the way, I am a pharmacist, so I do have some knowledge in the area.
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Answered by Dr. Eris Ranxha (7 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Senile dementia

Detailed Answer:
Dear
I am sorry for the symptoms your grandmother is suffering
There is a classification
Dementia which is senile and vascular
And Alzheimer
Vascular dementia is caused by recurrent minor stroke or persistent brain hypoperfusion
Senile dementia has no cause, the symptoms start with no cause especially at elders
Alzheimer is the some situation as senile dementia but in youngest.
There are organic changes is Alzheimer.
If you undertake the patient to MRI you will find severe brain atrophy.
At elders atrophy is a normal event that's why it is called just dementia (senile) as the process is normal for the age.
There are several way of treatment.
You need to treat the symptoms (as they did with zoloft).
And dementia (memantine, aricept, rivastigmine).
Hope my answer will help in understanding the prices and starting an efficient treatment.
Best regards
Dr Eris Ranxha.
Neurologist.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Bhagyalaxmi Nalaparaju
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Follow up: Dr. Eris Ranxha (14 hours later)
Yes, I understand what you are saying. It is the very fast nature of the onset of her dementia symptoms that concern me. It was not a gradual process that would be typical of someone in their late 80's. She had a very good memory at age 88. She could do calculations in her head. She knew everyone's birthdates and anniversary dates. (probably 50 or so in the extended family). Then it seemed like within a month she went to where she could not retain information. i.e. asking the same thing over and over again. She still has the ability to think, reason, read, etc., but cannot retain it. I assume from your previous response you do not think this is Alzheimer's, but it is curious to me as to why it came on so suddenly. She has been to the hospital after that time period, but there is no indication of a stroke or other pathological change. What do you think?
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Answered by Dr. Eris Ranxha (8 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Not a stroke

Detailed Answer:
Dear
Unfortunately medicine isn't math
Each patient has different way of development at certain stages
Anyway it is known that senile dementia can start suddenly
It first symptoms are miscalculation and short memory loss
I think there is still hope
Please discuss with her neurologist the possibility of starting memantine or aricept
Regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vinay Bhardwaj
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Follow up: Dr. Eris Ranxha (21 hours later)
Thank you. This helps a lot. I always thought that dementia, without any obvious pathological change, was a gradual process as the person ages. But, you say it can happen suddenly. And, indeed it is short term memory loss she has the most trouble with. She can still reason, calculate in her head, and carry on a coherent conversation. But 5 minutes later, she has no memory of it. So, do you think the medications you mentioned would improve her memory, or just slow the progression of her dementia?
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Answered by Dr. Eris Ranxha (6 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Slow down the process

Detailed Answer:
Dear
it will slow down the proces for sure,
probably some clinical improvements will be seen but it is not sure.
In my experience for the first year the patient improve than the proces began again
Bestr regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vinay Bhardwaj
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How Is Alzheimer's Disease And Senile Dementia Diagnosed?

Brief Answer: Senile dementia Detailed Answer: Dear I am sorry for the symptoms your grandmother is suffering There is a classification Dementia which is senile and vascular And Alzheimer Vascular dementia is caused by recurrent minor stroke or persistent brain hypoperfusion Senile dementia has no cause, the symptoms start with no cause especially at elders Alzheimer is the some situation as senile dementia but in youngest. There are organic changes is Alzheimer. If you undertake the patient to MRI you will find severe brain atrophy. At elders atrophy is a normal event that's why it is called just dementia (senile) as the process is normal for the age. There are several way of treatment. You need to treat the symptoms (as they did with zoloft). And dementia (memantine, aricept, rivastigmine). Hope my answer will help in understanding the prices and starting an efficient treatment. Best regards Dr Eris Ranxha. Neurologist.