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Is 10 To 12 Hours Of Sleep A Day Instead Of 15 To 18 Hours In A 10-week-old Baby A Concern?

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Posted on Thu, 11 Apr 2019
Question: Hello doctor, I had asked you few questions last month about runny nose and eczema etc and was happy with your reply. I have few concerns again.

I am in the UK with my first baby daughter who is today 10 WEEKS old. She was born at 38 weeks with c-section. Her birth weight was 2.960 kg.

She could not latch on my breasts properly from two weeks of age so I had to express breast milk and give her by bottle. She sometimes latches on breast for only 1-2 minutes then starts crying or goes to sleep. Midwife here advised me to express breast milk (by electric pump) and give her by bottle which I have been doing since she was two weeks old. It is tiring but I want to keep her on breast milk as much as possible. So far I have given her formula milk only three times due to taking her out of house for appointments.

Now the concerns are:

1> She had her first vaccinations at 8 weeks. But two days before vaccinations she had started eating less. Since then I feel she is not eating as much as she needs to. Before 8 weeks of age she was taking 6-7 times a day 80-100 ml of breast milk in bottle easily without much fuss. She was taking about 650ml in 24 hours just before 8 weeks age. Since 8 weeks of age she is refusing to finish bottle and stops at 50-60ml. Then she cries and refuses to open her mouth. We try again in one hour but some times she takes it some times not. some times she does take 80-100ml but this is not too often. Overall she takes about 580-650ml in 24 hours since 8 weeks age and as of today. She has not increased her amount of milk.
Why she is doing this? She does 2-3 poos and about 12-15 times pee. This she does everyday.

2> Her weight was gaining at steady rate until she was 7 weeks old. It was not great growth but within normal range. When we had 9 weeks weight she came down on her growth chart slightly (percentile wise). She was at 4.100kg. Health adviser said it is not uncommon to go below chart temporarily and we should not worry at this stage. They will see her again in two weeks time to check whether weight has gained at normal rate. I feel because she is not eating more she will not gain enough. What do you think? Is it something to get it checked with hospital immediately?

3> She does not cry unnecessarily or does not have fever. She plays and smiles most of the time. But eating has not improved. I offered her breast today, she took it for one minute then became fussy. I gave her formula milk after 5 minutes and to my XXXXXXX she drank 100ml without fuss. Do you think is it something with my breast milk or she has some allergy? Do you prefer I offer her formula milk more?

4> Very occasionally she coughs, sneezes and has hiccups. She does not vomit regularly. In last 10 weeks she has vomited (small amounts) only three times. Do you think she may have reflux or colic or stomach gas etc?

5> Doctors here usually do not prescribe medicines straight away unless absolute necessary. Do you think we should get multivitamin drops to improve her apatite?

6> From last two weeks she also sleeps less during the day. At night she sleeps about 7-8 hours but during day time she sleeps 5-10 minutes then wake up for long time, again sleep 5-10 minutes and wake up for long time. She does not cry more and most of the time plays well. I understood that the baby at this age should sleep about 15-18 hours a day but she hardly sleeps for 10-12 hours a day. What this could be? Is it something to worry? Will this have effect on weight or overall growth of her?

Please reply.

Thanks in advance.
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Answered by Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (19 hours later)
Brief Answer:
No need to worry. All these are normal.

Detailed Answer:

Hi,

Going one by one through your questions, I would not get worried for slight change in intake of milk or if the amount of feed has not increased. This is quite common and suddenly you will find that the appetite has increased and thus the intake will also increase. If she takes about 600 ml of milk daily this is okay for her. The intake should be about 150 ml/kg/day.

For weight also, I would again say that the transient decrease in weight is also common. I don't think that there is any issue with breast milk. I can understand that expressing the breast milk each time for feed is quite cumbersome and it takes time too. I would suggest you to latch the baby properly to the breast with the help of the midwife.

There should not be any problem with breast milk and if the baby is taking formula as said by you, there should not be any problem with the expressed breast milk. Even if you are noticing that the baby is taking formula feed even after feeding the expressed breast milk, this suggests that her demand is more. In that case, you may need to take some supplement for increasing milk production or formula feed supplementation may be needed.

For sleep time, I want to say that as the baby grows the sleep cycle gets more mature and follows the pattern of older children that is prolonged sleep during night time and decreased day time naps. So there is nothing to worry about that.

It is good that in developed countries, doctors are not using unnecessary medications. Medications should be given only when it is needed. Multivitamins do not help in increasing the appetite and is not recommended in infants who are born at term with normal weight. The recommendation is to give vitamin-D supplementation to all the babies till one year of age and if your baby is not getting that, you can ask the same from your doctor. Occasional vomiting is also common and it does not suggests any reflux or other problem.

I would suggest you to try to feed her directly through the breast and try to find out about latching problem with the help of the midwife if there is any. Breast milk is the best so don't think that it is causing any allergy or other problem.

Don't get worried about sleep time. Monitor the weight at frequent intervals and be in touch with the health care person to check the growth pattern.

If baby is active, feeding well, passing urine frequently, is playful then there is nothing to worry.

I hope this helps. I shall be glad to help further if you need any.

Thank you.

Regards,
Dr. Pradeep Kumar
Pediatrician, Cardiology
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Follow up: Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (22 hours later)
Thank you doctor for your detailed reply. I had lots of help and classes from many midwives and lactation specialists about breastfeeding but none had worked and all said my option is to express and give by bottle. I had tried all the methods of direct breastfeeding but so far nothing has worked.

Regarding above queries most advisers here said the same thing as you but I was getting nervous so I consulted private doctor here and he advised me to do some blood tests for my baby. We did blood tests yesterday and today morning the consultant rang me and said baby's other readings (thyroid, liver etc) look normal but calcium level shows high. He said due to high calcium sometimes appetite is less. He wants to rule out condition called Hyperparathyroidism by doing another blood test for PTH (Parathyroid hormones). He said baby's Vitamin D level is ok so no need to give any multivitamins. Also he advised me to temporarily stop breast milk and give her formula until high calcium level's reason is found. He also advised me to stop taking any Vitamin D supplements.

I searched briefly on internet and got scared. Some sources says in cancer the calcium level goes high. Also hyperparathyroidism can cause high levels. High vitamin D can cause it. etc etc.

1> What do you think about my daughter's high calcium level? I will get exact readings (report) in 1-2 days.

2> Can high level of calcium cause loss of appetite in 10 weeks old baby? Could this be the reason for her feeding less? As I mentioned before she urinates about 15 times a day.

3> IF her PTH is comes back normal then, is high level of calcium indicates serious problem with her?

4> Is this high calcium level treatable easily?

5> Could this be related to any dietary intake I had taken?


I am very worried at the moment. Could you please give some advise?

Thanks.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (5 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Proper evaluation is needed

Detailed Answer:

Hi,

First of all, I would like to know the exact calcium level. The normal range is 9-11 and more than 12 mg/dl is considered to be high. While in diseased condition it is usually more than 15.
High calcium level may cause decrease appetite, irritability, poor weight gain etc.

Hypercalcemia in this age is usually asymptomatic unless it is very significantly high. Hyperparathyroidism is one of the cause of hypercalcemia but rare in this age and usually manifests in age more than 10 year . High Vitamin d level is another cause but in your case it is normal.

First you confirm the calcium value and if it is high then proper evaluation should be done like serum magnesium, phosphorus, parathyroid level, renal function test.

Don't worry much as malignancy is very uncommon in this age. As the baby is predominantly on breast feed I don't think it is related to feed.

Hope I have answered your query. Let me know if I can assist you further.

Thank you.

Regards,
Dr. Pradeep Kumar
Pediatrician, Cardiology
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Follow up: Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (22 hours later)
Dear doctor,

I just got result of my daughter's first blood tests. Please see attached. Today we have done PTH and calcium and will get results in 1-2 days.

Please advise what we should do?

Just to update that:
After doctor's advise we had given my daughter formula milk whole day yesterday. Since yesterday as of now (26 hours) she has not done poo. Normally she does 2-3 poos a day with breast milk but since yesterday on formula milk no poo.

She had urinated today with yellowish colour and little smell. Normal urine is almost clear and smell free but today was different.

She also has little sunken front fontanelle and we are worried about dehydration.

She has done her normal number of urine from yesterday but latest two were yellowish and with little smell.

She has not improved her intake even on formula as well.

Please advise what next can be done to resolve this calcium issue, feeding problem and now urine.

Regards.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (12 hours later)
Brief Answer:
I won't get worried for this level of serum calcium

Detailed Answer:

Hi,

The serum calcium level is borderline high. In diseased condition, the calcium level is usually much higher.

In hyperparathyroidism there is raised PTH, high calcium and low phosphorus. Here other parameters including serum phosphorus (inorganic phosphate) are within normal range. Vitamin-D level is also normal and this does not warrant to stop the supplementation of vitamin-D as due to supplementation only, this would have been normal. Vitamin-D supplementation needs to be discontinued only when it is beyond the normal limit or in Upper range of normal limit.

I don't find the reason behind discontinuation of breast milk as breast milk is the best feed for a baby and formula feed contains comparatively more calcium and phosphorus. As the frequency of urine is good, it suggests that the amount of fluid intake is good but better if you try to increase the amount of feed in view of the altered color of urine. The color of urine usually does not depend on whether the baby is breast fed or formula fed.

I would rather wait for the report of calcium, parathyroid and to repeat the serum ionised calcium level (which is considered to be more accurate to assess the active calcium level in blood) after 15 days.

I know this may confuse you and the opinion of your doctor may vary from mine but I suggest you to discuss with your doctor about the line of treatment and possible diagnosis in detail.

Hope I have answered your query. Let me know if I can assist you further.

Thank you.

Regards,
Dr. Pradeep Kumar
Pediatrician, Cardiology
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Follow up: Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (6 hours later)
Hello doctor, Thank you for your reply.

I just had a call from doctor here that yesterday's blood results have come in. PTH is within normal range so we are relieved. Also the calcium came down to normal range. He said he is not concerned about any major issues at the moment and will plan what to do next. He said temporarily stopping Vit D and breast milk may have made the difference on calcium. He has said do not take Vit d and start half breast milk and half formula until we meet him next.

He will forward me the actual report in a day or two. I will submit the report to you again.

He will see us next week to discuss further plan on why my baby is feeding little less. He said may be silent reflux need to be looked into.

Now then, reports shows no major problem. But the original question still unsolved. Why baby is not taking as much as guidance suggest and why she has not gained as much weight as growth chart suggest and why she is fussy about eating more?

Yesterday she did poo ONCE only and it was a big one with toothpaste consistency. I think it was due to fully formula fed for almost two days. Urine continues to be frequent (10-12 times) and slight pale/yellow.

The latest pattern (last 3-4 days) about her feed intake is:
During the day 6-7 feedings but only with 50-60ml XXXXXXX at a time. Evening and night feeding 2-3 times with 80-100ml at a time. All in all about 580-600ml in 24 hours. We have to offer her most of the time as she does not demand every time. Also, half way of bottle feeding she becomes fussy and try to get off the bottle and eventually does not finish the bottle.

What should we do next according to you?

DO you think my baby has some underlying problem?

Does it look like that we should do more investigation such as x-ray, endoscopy, ultrasound etc?

Regards.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Pradeep Kumar Jain (6 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Anti-reflux measures can be tried

Detailed Answer:

Hi,

It is good to know that all the values are within normal limit as I was already expecting. I don't think vitamin-D supplementation needs to be discontinued.

However, it would be better if you follow his advice, as he is your baby's treating doctor. There is no harm in giving formula feed with breast milk, but there are chances of decreased production of breast milk over a period of time. The more you express breast milk, the more the quantity of breast milk production. Also, constipation is more common with the formula feed.

600 ml of daily intake is appropriate for this age and weight. If growth is not picking up, in the follow up, a trial of anti-reflux measures can be given considering silent reflux.

Hope I have answered your query.

Thank you.

Regards,
Dr. Pradeep Kumar
Pediatrician, Cardiology
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Is 10 To 12 Hours Of Sleep A Day Instead Of 15 To 18 Hours In A 10-week-old Baby A Concern?

Brief Answer: No need to worry. All these are normal. Detailed Answer: Hi, Going one by one through your questions, I would not get worried for slight change in intake of milk or if the amount of feed has not increased. This is quite common and suddenly you will find that the appetite has increased and thus the intake will also increase. If she takes about 600 ml of milk daily this is okay for her. The intake should be about 150 ml/kg/day. For weight also, I would again say that the transient decrease in weight is also common. I don't think that there is any issue with breast milk. I can understand that expressing the breast milk each time for feed is quite cumbersome and it takes time too. I would suggest you to latch the baby properly to the breast with the help of the midwife. There should not be any problem with breast milk and if the baby is taking formula as said by you, there should not be any problem with the expressed breast milk. Even if you are noticing that the baby is taking formula feed even after feeding the expressed breast milk, this suggests that her demand is more. In that case, you may need to take some supplement for increasing milk production or formula feed supplementation may be needed. For sleep time, I want to say that as the baby grows the sleep cycle gets more mature and follows the pattern of older children that is prolonged sleep during night time and decreased day time naps. So there is nothing to worry about that. It is good that in developed countries, doctors are not using unnecessary medications. Medications should be given only when it is needed. Multivitamins do not help in increasing the appetite and is not recommended in infants who are born at term with normal weight. The recommendation is to give vitamin-D supplementation to all the babies till one year of age and if your baby is not getting that, you can ask the same from your doctor. Occasional vomiting is also common and it does not suggests any reflux or other problem. I would suggest you to try to feed her directly through the breast and try to find out about latching problem with the help of the midwife if there is any. Breast milk is the best so don't think that it is causing any allergy or other problem. Don't get worried about sleep time. Monitor the weight at frequent intervals and be in touch with the health care person to check the growth pattern. If baby is active, feeding well, passing urine frequently, is playful then there is nothing to worry. I hope this helps. I shall be glad to help further if you need any. Thank you. Regards, Dr. Pradeep Kumar Pediatrician, Cardiology