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What Causes Acute Pain And Tightness In The Chest?

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Posted on Sat, 3 Dec 2016
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Question : Sir,
I am 62. I came to USA 2 months back. I was on (1)Telma AM (40 mg + 5 mg) (2) Nebicard 2.5 mg (3) Jupiros (10mg+75 mg Aspirin) and (4) Roliflo OD-2 for BPH before I started from XXXXXXX I had been taking a walk for 20-25 minutes here in USA where there are some slopy and ascending tracks. I had been exercising oncross-trainer machine also for 15 minutes or so. One week into this, one day while returning from an ascent ( I had hardly walked for 1.5 KM) I felt something strange in my body (no chest pain, but some heavyness and weakness alongwith some light-headedness). I sat for 5 minutes and restarted and reached my home but the strange manifestation continued for 1-2 hours. I was scared and almost discontinued my walks. My HR used to be very low around 50 and on some couple of days, it read even 47 or 48. I contacted a general physician here who discontinued the Nebicard 2.5 mg and added 5 mg Amlodepine to my list. He also prescribed some Food Supplements such as Adrenaline Cortisol, Vitamin D-50000 IU (per week) and Saw Plametto (for BPH). But I kept on taking my earlier medicines minus Nebicard as well as the additional dose of 5 mg Amlo. I kept my BP charting (twice a day) and for one week, the readings remained between 130 mg Systolic and 80-85 mg Dystolic BUT weakness and light-headedness continued. One day, my children took me to a family get-together whereby I missed my morning dose of Telma AM. When I returned in the evening, I was feeling un-steady and found my BP reading 151/96 and HR 72. Half-hrly readings kept on going up (although I took my missed medicine) to 163/100 and 164/100 with HR as 77 and 88. Following day was almost OK but third day, the BP readings shot to 170/107 and 167/102 with HR as 90 and 92. Thinking that the Supplements might be responsible for heightened BP, I discontinued their intake. For next twenty days, although the BP readings hovered around 150 Sys and 94 Dys, I had lot of discomfort in my chest especially in the thoracic diaphragm area. I had 3-4 episodes of palpitation also during this period. I MAY ADD THAT LAST YEAR IN JULY 2015 I UNDERWENT ANGIOGRAPHY AT XXXXXXX IN ORDER TO RULE OUT ANY PROBLEM AND ALSO BECAUSE MY TMT WAS BORDERLINE POSITIVE. THE ANGIOGRAM WAS NEGATIVE WITH FINAL IMPRESSION AS "INSIGNIFICANT CAD".
I again consulted the same general physician inUSA and told my history of last one month. He has added Toprol 25 mg OD (starting with half a tablet per day and in case things dont improve, then to start full pill). I took the half tablet (alongwith all other medicines prescribed by this Physician minus Nebicard and supplements) last night and felt a bit better in the sense that though there was no palpitation and much heaviness in the chest, I felt my head as heavier with sleep difficult to come but somehow I could sleep for 4 hours or so. Pertinent to add here that I had had couple of episodes of AF in the past in XXXXXXX also that is why Nebicard 2.5 mg was introduced about two years back. I am a case of Bradycardia and generally my pulse reads around 65 or so. Sometimes, I feel lot of pressure in my chest. I started Nexium 20 mg (esomperazole) OD (one hour before main meal of the day) and 3-4 days I felt some improvement in the chest pressure. While I had been preparing this note, I have returned to XXXXXXX I took one 5mg Amlo at 9.30 am in the morning, then took Nexium before lunch which i had at a dhaba on GT Road and half an hour after meal, I took Metoprolol (toprol). I reached my place at 4.00 pm from XXXXXXX and i just carried/lifted 9-10 kg weight brief case to my first floor residence and have been feeling tightness in my chest for the last threee hours or so. My BP measured 113/66 and HR 56. I am not able to figure out what is causing this tightness or pressure in the chest. In between I have to burp also sometimes mildly and few times deeply.
Kindly advise:
i) How do you prescribe my present condition
ii) Can I continue my walks and/or cardio exercises
iii) Is TelmaAM (40 mg Telmisartan and 5 mg Amlodepin)plus another dose of 5 mg Amlodepine and addition of 25 mg Toprol (half pill or full pill) not on higher side considering my XXXXXXX cardia
iv) In fact, you may find me in a catch-22 situation. If I take Beta Blocker, my pulse rate comes down and if I dont take, it causes palpitation.
v) What is your considered advice in my situation
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Answered by Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Please visit a healthcare facility urgently.

Detailed Answer:
Dear Sir
1. First of all, since you are writing this query in acute chest discomfort and tightness which is there for last 34 hours, you must visit a healthcare facility urgently to get yourself examined. Because any degree of detailed accurate history can not rule out anginal episode. An examination by a qualified doctor and some other investigations are essential.
2. I will be glad to answer all your queries in detail, but this platform is not meant to treat acute emergencies or acute conditions.
With these remarks, I would like you to first visit a healthcare facility. I would surely get back to you through this question only for elaborating my thoughts on this scenario.
Regards
Sincerely
Sukhvinder
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Follow up: Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (19 hours later)
I did not say that the tightness in the chest continued for 34 hours. I said that the tightness started at 4.00 pm moved to the abdominal area after 4-5 hours and remained stuck up in the left side of the stomach where, I think, colon is there and disappeared after I relieved myself in the next morning. The following day was fine. Nexium 20 mg (esomeprazole) bought in USA is surely providing some relief in the matter of tightness in the chest. I would definitely be going to a medical facility in the coming week but meanwhile wants to know from you the answers to the points raised by me in my original question. As you may observe, my main problem is the unstable BP charting and unstable HR (as low as 50 or below and as high as 88-90 even at rest) including few episodes of palpitation as mentioned in detail in the original question.
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Answered by Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
please see following details.

Detailed Answer:
Dear Sir
1. My apologies that 3-4 hours got typed as 34 hours.

2. The original question did not mention that pain subsided after you relieved yourself. The description stopped after........... and have been feeling tightness in my chest for the last three hours or so. My BP measured 113/66 and HR 56. I am not able to figure out what is causing this tightness or pressure in the chest...............So i got the impression that it is an ongoing pain. Anyhow ,lets come to the questions you asked previously.

A. Sir, Only by history exact current condition can not be ascertained. However I have following inputs to offer. There is a mixture of frequent change in medication, anxiety, abdominal upset and some features may be associated with cardiac disease (may be and not necessarily).

B. A low heart is considered problematic only if the mechanism of production of heart rate is abnormal or it is causing some symptoms. A heart rate as low as 50 may be normal for a person who is taking medications to reduce it, has no symptoms and mechanism is normal (as ascertained by ECG). Hence, just by palpating or recording on monitor a heart rate of 50 is not abnormal in itself. It is abnormal only if there are definite symptoms because of it or the mechanism of heart beat is abnormal.

C. Whenever we stop or change betablockers (metoprolol {toprol} or nebivolol) like drugs, palpitation without any other symptoms for a couple of weeks may be present. As the body takes time to adjust to reduction in dose or change of agent. However, in current scenario, the palpitation may be due to episode of AF which can only be determined by examination at that time or recording an ECG at that time. There is no other way to ascertain it.

D. My only concern is the first episode which happened in USA. That should have been evaluated thoroughly for its seriousness. If there are exercise induced symptoms, like chest discomfort or unusual shortness of breath on using stairs or walking after meals, then cardiologist evaluation is a must and you should not go for morning walk till the consultation. However, if it not the case, then you may continue your morning walk till the point you feel comfortable. The moment you feel uncomfortable you should stop and report to cardiologist. Do not attempt to perform efforts more than your usual effort till have your routine consultation with your physician as you told in answer.

E. Alodipine and telmesartan do not cause bradycardia. Toprol can cause bradycardia, though it is being given in very low dose. Sir, Dose of toprol in clinical practice is 12.5mg to 400 mg, so, No absolute dose is less or more, it depends upon clinical indication, effect in given individual and its side effects which determine the dose.

Hope this provides some insight. Please feel free to discuss further on the issue, if there are more queries.

Sincerely
Sukhvinder
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Veerisetty Shyamkumar
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Follow up: Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (1 hour later)
Thanks for the reply.
As you may find in my original question, I underwent angiography in July, 2015 which was found to be normal. This was my fourth angiography. Kindly recall reply given by you last year when you observed that why I had undergone too many angiography procedures. My anxiety is that when i) i had normal arteries a year back ii) have been maintaining healthy cholestrol levels by regular intake of rosuvas; iii) have been doing yoga one hour daily (while in India) for almost six months and iv) had been taking walk for 2 kms or so 3-4 times a week THEN WHY I FACED THE SYMPTOMS DEVELOPED WHILE IN USA. My HR in USA even touched 47 beats per minute. Even at 50 HR, I used to have low/depressed mood. Lipid prodile done in USA two months back indicated total cholesterol as 118; LDL as 56 and Trigylcerides as 144. Cholesterol/HDL ratio as 3.6. Of course, HDL was just 33.
As you kindly observed last year, my TMT and stress thallium used to be false positive but since stress thallium done in april 2014 showed moderately positive, on the advice of a XXXXXXX Cardiologist of XXXXXXX (personally known to me), I underwent angiography last year despite your advice to the contrary.
Of course, I am going to consult a Cardiologist in XXXXXXX coming week for proper assessment of my medical condition BUT KINDLY OPINE WHAT COULD BE THE CAUSE OF MY SUFFERING SO MUCH THAT I HAD TO RUSH BACK TO XXXXXXX THOUGH I WAS SUPPOSED TO STAY THERE WITH MY CHILDREN TILL MARCH 2017.


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Answered by Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (30 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
please see details

Detailed Answer:
Dear Sir
I have gone through that query. Sir, Medical sciences are not two+two=four. Every individual doctor who practices medicine, has a set of opinion about each entity. Though books, journals and guidelinse tend to bring uniformity in practice but like still there is a lot of subjectivity even in interpretation of subject. Moreover, the perception of patients for same disease process and their reaction to it is also highly variable. These things make our field unique and some what unpredictable too. Now , coming back to your specific queries.

1. A heart rate of 47 without symptoms can also be very much normal in person, especially who is on betablockers. Now, depression or low mood was a reaction to low heart rate or it was due truly due to low HR is something which is important but not easy to find out. If it was merely a your reaction to low heart rate, we normally do not take any action. But if the low mood always comes with low heart rate and goes away with improvement in rate, without any subjective emotional contribution from your side, it requires intervention (which may vary from merely stopping the drug to putting on a pacemaker). I hope you understand the practical meaning of above paragraph more clearly.

2. Whenever someone comes to us with a history of symptoms which appear with exercise or exertion and disappear with rest, we are bound to look for heart disease. It is mandatory, unless another diagnosis is established. Absence of disease one year back, healthy life style, normal cholesterol and regular medication decreases the chances of occurrence of anginal heart disease but do not provide guarantee. Therefore, the history that how symptoms are appearing, how they are precipitating, how they are being relieved, is very very important.

3. I have already pointed out that your evaluation at time of episode in USA was very important. If it is due to heart disease or not should have been decided at that time only. That might have reduced your doubts and anxiety.

4. The episode of AF are really really unpredictable and you should not think much about them as this itself may precipitate the event.

5. A totally normal person without any major or minor risk factor may develop a heart attack. By stating this fact, I want to stress upon you that rather than worrying too much and trying to get explanation of each and every happening yourself, you must try to meditate and reduce your anxiety. Let, your cardiologist evaluate you and we can discus further about his observations.

Feel free to discuss further.

Sincerely

Sukhvinder

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Veerisetty Shyamkumar
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Follow up: Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (47 hours later)
My Physician did my ECG as also a Prop T test on Monday. While no changes have been observed in the ECG except bradycardia, the Prop T showed negative.Today, I consulted a XXXXXXX faculty of cardiology at PGI XXXXXXX He has stopped Metoprolol altogether and advised Telma AM twice a day-Morning and Evening apart from Nexium 20 mg (esomeprazole)and has further referred me to G.E. Clinic which i will do shortly. Does this mean that my problem basically linked to the abdominal upset or is still there any scope or need for investigation of any cardio related test(s).
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Answered by Dr. Sukhvinder Singh (9 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Difficult to assume. But here are some inputs.

Detailed Answer:
Dear Sir
1. This only tell that your treating physician thinks that first possibility is gastro-intestine problem. Second, He thought that metoprolol may not be required in your case for the time being. He may like to see the effect of withdrawal. That's it. We can not make any more assumptions about what he thought. A satisfactory ECG and normal TropT, in absence of definite history, reassure that a significant ischemic episode has not taken place in recent past (less than a week)
2. Yes, a part of your problem appears to be related to gastrointestinal tract. I have already given you leads regarding my thoughts on the issue in last reply.
Sincerely
Sukhvinder
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What Causes Acute Pain And Tightness In The Chest?

Brief Answer: Please visit a healthcare facility urgently. Detailed Answer: Dear Sir 1. First of all, since you are writing this query in acute chest discomfort and tightness which is there for last 34 hours, you must visit a healthcare facility urgently to get yourself examined. Because any degree of detailed accurate history can not rule out anginal episode. An examination by a qualified doctor and some other investigations are essential. 2. I will be glad to answer all your queries in detail, but this platform is not meant to treat acute emergencies or acute conditions. With these remarks, I would like you to first visit a healthcare facility. I would surely get back to you through this question only for elaborating my thoughts on this scenario. Regards Sincerely Sukhvinder