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What Causes Orange And Black Flecs Within The Sputum In An Asthma Patient?

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Question : I am 48 and have a Hx. of asthma since 3, then TB exposure in 2002 with INH treatment for 9 months. In 2007 I was diagnosed with Allergic Bronchopulmonary Aspergilliosis in Florida. I used to see orange flecs and black flecs within my yellow or white sputum. I get the symptoms each year at least of sob, coughing, and needing more medication. Could these flecs be a fungus where I should be taking an anti-fungal. It hit me hard with Spring coming in and I have not had a sputum.

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Answered by Dr. Drkaushal85 (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Yes, these flecs can be fungal elements.

Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on Healthcare Magic.
I can understand your concern.
Yes, these orange, black flecs can be fungal elements.
You need to get done sputum microscopic examination to confirm this.
And yes antifungal drug like itraconazole should be given if you still have breathlessness despite of asthma drugs.
Please let me know
1. Which asthma drugs you are taking?
2. What is your last PFT report?
3. Have you ever undergone sputum examination or bronchoscopic evaluation?
Please reply me answers of above asked questions, so that I can guide you better. I will be happy to help you further. Wish you good health. Thanks.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Drkaushal85 (18 hours later)
I moved to a dryer and colder climate in XXXXXXX from Florida. I think I would be dead had I stayed in the tropical climate of Florida. A few times a year in XXXXXXX including Spring the past few years I get the flare up of sob, tight frequent coughing, mucous and yes..with orange flecs and sometimes black flecs.
Questions:
1). Normally when symptom free I just take an allergy medication PRN and Flonase nasal spray. But a good majority of the year I just take two puffs Pro-Air or Ventilin two times daily and still exercise 3-4 times a week vigourously with no problem. When asthma and/or this other breathing issues begin, I take Albuterol updrafts every 4 hours PRN sob. Sometimes 2 x day is enough.

I don't take a steroidal inhaler regularly because it has never made a difference for me when this condition kicks in and don't want long term side effects. I just saw the doctor and am on Prednisone in which I will taper down over the next couple of weeks. I have also been taking a over the counter Guafenesin to help loosen mucous.
2). I generally do great on PFT's because of my exercise and compensate well. Last PFT was at least a few years ago with moving, changing doctors, jobs, etc. I would not do as well with sob however.
3). When I was diagnosed with ABPA in 2007 I had at least 2 Bronchs in two years and they did do sputum at that time.

I'm glad that your able to tell me it could be fungus because prior to the Dx. of 2007 ABPA I never had flecs in my white or yellow sputum. I'm wondering why I get it in a dryer climate, although we had snow melt and the temperature has been warmer with Spring. Summer gets bad too.

Thank you
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Answered by Dr. Drkaushal85 (27 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
It is better to take long acting beta 2 agonist (LABA).

Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on Healthcare Magic.
I can understand your concern.
Pro air is having albuterol. It is short acting beta 2 agonist (SABA). It's action lasts for only 2-4 hours.
Instead of this, it is better to take long acting beta 2 agonist (LABA).
Their action lasts for 12 hours. So only twice daily dose is needed with better control.
Commonly used LABA are formoterol, salmeterol, indacaterol etc.
Please let me know if you have tried any of these earlier or not.
I will be happy to help you further. Wish you good health. Thanks.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Drkaushal85 (14 minutes later)
Hello Doctor, I am not familiar with the term LABA 2 agonist. Is this a steroidal inhaler? I have not had improvement from them in any form over time. I do take the Symbicort with symptoms but don't notice any change with it. Just the Prednisone, occasional antibiotic with fever....and rarely an antifungal with bronchodialtors has helped me breath when worse. I guess I should try to get with a Pulmonologist again or Allergist for this condition. Which would you suggest? I've seen an Allergist about 2 years ago.
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Answered by Dr. Drkaushal85 (9 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
No, it is not steroid.

Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on Healthcare Magic.
I can understand your concern.
No it is not steroid. So don't worry about it.
It is similar to ventorlin but having newer, longer acting, improved drugs.
You will mostly improve with these newer drugs.
And in my opinion, you should consult pulmonologist first.
You must be having night time. Why you are awake this late?
I will be happy to help you further. Wish you good health. Thanks.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Drkaushal85 (14 minutes later)
Ha! I'm awake because I'm working a 12 hour night shift in home health. Ok, I'll certainly ask about these medications and give one a try once I get a Pulmonologist consult. Thank you for the information. It is good to get a few opinions and I thought it was probably a fungus.

Thank you
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Answered by Dr. Drkaushal85 (3 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Thanks for your kind words. If you wish I can tell you brand names.

Detailed Answer:
Thanks for your follow up question on Healthcare Magic.
Thanks for your kind words. I am happy that my suggestions are helpful to you.
I can tell you brand names of inhaler if you want to take.
Please feel free to ask anytime.
Hope I have solved your query.
If you are not having further queries, then please close the conversation and rate my answer.
You can ask me directly on bit.ly/askdrkaushalbhavsar.
Wish you good health. Thanks.
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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What Causes Orange And Black Flecs Within The Sputum In An Asthma Patient?

Brief Answer: Yes, these flecs can be fungal elements. Detailed Answer: Thanks for your follow up question on Healthcare Magic. I can understand your concern. Yes, these orange, black flecs can be fungal elements. You need to get done sputum microscopic examination to confirm this. And yes antifungal drug like itraconazole should be given if you still have breathlessness despite of asthma drugs. Please let me know 1. Which asthma drugs you are taking? 2. What is your last PFT report? 3. Have you ever undergone sputum examination or bronchoscopic evaluation? Please reply me answers of above asked questions, so that I can guide you better. I will be happy to help you further. Wish you good health. Thanks.