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What Does My MRI Scan Test Result Indicate?

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Posted on Mon, 27 Jun 2016
Question: Dad approximately 3 months tried to get up and simply couldn’t. Dad has always been an independent man with no mobility problems. We took Dad to the hospital who thought Dad had had a TIA. After assessment TIA was ruled out.



Dads main symptoms were severe pain in left thigh and leg and when he tried to stand up his legs would just collapse underneath him. Dad does have some numbness in his leg. This all started in his left leg but has now developed to the right leg (right leg is now much worse than the left with exactly the same symptoms, numbness, pain and legs collapse underneath him. Numbness in left leg has now resolved but still has it in his right leg. Dads feet are always stone cold and he says he cant tell himself without touch whether both feet are hot or cold. Dad has no upper limb symptoms.



At the moment Dad can’t get from a sitting to standing position yet his left leg now has full power and can leg raise with full range of movement. The right leg however he can hardly lift it up, Dads left leg was like this at first but now the leg seems to be resolving though Dad can still not walk or stand.



We have had a follow up appointment with the Stroke Team who have now discharged Dad as they say his condition is not stroke related.



We have seen a Neurologist and are awaiting EMG studies plus MRI scan and Occupational Therapy input. Neurologist gave us no hope what so ever and said there is no treatment and reversing what is wrong with Dad. I am sure medicine these days there must be something.







Please find below the letter we got from the Neurologist:







Diagnosis: likely diabetic motor sensory neuropathy







Thank you for referring this 68 year old right handed gentleman to the Neurology clinic. He has had Diabetes since 2000. His control was previously poor though has improved in the last 9 months. Mr Bridge has a previous history of osteomyelitis for which he was treated long term antibiotics (18 months of antibiotics). He now describes a 2 month history of progressive weakness of both legs. He also described numbness in the legs. His arms bowel bladder speech and swallowing is unaffected.







On examination today his cranial nerves were unremarkable. Examination of limbs revealed normal tone. Power was normal in both arms and legs. Hip flexion was reduced to 3/5 bilaterally. Reflexes were absent in the legs but present in the arms. Sensation to pinprick was reduced distally in the legs but was present in the arms. Vibration sense was absent up to the hips. There were no fasciculation’s visible.







I suspect this gentleman has quite a severe axonal motor sensory neuropathy secondary to his diabetes. I have explained that this is not a treatable condition but we need to exclude any more treatable condition but we need to do some further investigations to exclude anymore treatable causes. I am arranging MRI scan of lumbar spine to make sure there is no cord pathology or nerve root compression and some nerve conduction studies to quantify the extent of his nerve damage.







Questions:



1. Do you have any idea what is wrong with my Dads legs?



2. How can we get Dad XXXXXXX even with a Zimmer (Dad still falls with a frame)



3. Do you think this condition can resolve or get better?



4. If Dad can move legs freely whilst sat down why can he not stand up without legs collapsing or him falling?



5. What is axonal motor sensory neuropathy and do you agree this is what is wrong? Can it get any better?



6. Will my Dad ever walk again even with a Zimmer/Walking Stick?



7. What can we do to try and help Dad?



8. Will Dad ever be able to drive again?



9. I have heard my Dads condition can improve with time with a conservative measure what are your thoughts please?







Since all the above Dad has been admitted into hospital and he has had an MRI scan. The MRI scan has shown a spine bulging disc. Could this be my dads problem and not neuropathy at all?







Dads symptoms seem to be resolving the numbness, pain in thighs but Dad can not stand up.







We have Nerve Conduction Studies in a few days time.







Please help me I am so worried. The hospital say there is nothing to worry about and they are expecting Nerve Conduction Studies to come back okay.







Dad results are as follows:



MRI Spine



1. Severe canal narrowing at L5-S1 secondary to a central/left central disc protrusion on a background of a developmentally narrow canal.



2. Moderate L4-5 canal narrowing.



3. No other new features. No cord compression.







EMG/NCS



There is a sensory-motor axonopathy affecting his lower limbs which has non-length dependent and asymmetrical features consistent with his clinical findings. Overall, considering his clinical and electrophysiological features I feel it is likely this represents a Diabetic Lumbosacral Radiculo-Plexus Neuropathy (DLRPN)







I cannot exclude that abnormalities seen on sensory conduction studies are not pre-existent findings that could represent a pre-existent mild sensory axonal neuropathy considering her reports diabetic retinopathy



Can dads spinal problem first try to be treated with physical therapy as I think this is the first step at the moment
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Answered by Dr. Indu Kumar (18 hours later)
Brief Answer:
He may need both conservative treatment and intervention.

Detailed Answer:
Hello,
Thanks for writing to HCM,
I've gone through your query and understand your concern,

Your father findings may suggest that physical problem is due to both long term side effects of diabetes mellitus (diabetic neuropathy) and lumbar canal stenosis.
His sufferings has been aggravated due to combined effect of these two conditions as both conditions affects nerves.

Still it is a partially reversible condition.
Diabetes mellitus need to be in controlled stage.He may need strict diet control and medicines.
He may also need physiotherapy.

He also need evaluation by a neurosurgeon.I suggest for decompression at L5-S1 level.It can be done percutaneous endoscopic operation.

Let me explain point wise.

1.Your dad's leg condition is due to combined effects of diabetes mellitus and lumbar canal stenosis.

2.Your dad's walking condition may improve after decompression and physiotherpy.

3.It is a partially reversible condition.

4.It is expected that his problems aggravate during standing.

5.Axonal motor sensory neuropathy is involvement of both sensory and motor nerves.Due to this he has both sensory(caries sensory) and motor(related to active movement and power)components.

6.I am sure that he will walk again even with a Zimmer/Walking Stick.

7.We have discussed earlier.

8.It is difficult to comment on driving but we shouldn't expect much as diabetic neuropathy doesn't respond much.

9.He may need both conservative treatment and intervention like endoscopic decompression operation for stenosis.

Get well soon.

Hope I have answered your query.
Further queries are most welcome.

Take Care
Dr. Indu XXXXXXX
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
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Follow up: Dr. Indu Kumar (13 hours later)
My dad has managed to stand up unaided today he hasnt walked but do you see this is a step in the right direction. he has not stood unaided for 3 months. do you think with physio my dad could be on the mend?
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Answered by Dr. Indu Kumar (7 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Physiotherapy may cause great help to your father.

Detailed Answer:
Hello,
Thanks for writing to HCM,
I've gone through your query and understand your concern,

Physiotherapy may cause great help to your father.
After that you may consult neurosurgeon for spinal stenosis.If general condition allows then endoscopic surgery may be considered.
He may also need proper medicines for diabetic neuropathy like methylcobalamin etc.
Pregabalin may also be prescribed.

Get well soon.

Hope I have answered your query.
Further queries are most welcome.

Take Care
Dr. Indu XXXXXXX
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What Does My MRI Scan Test Result Indicate?

Brief Answer: He may need both conservative treatment and intervention. Detailed Answer: Hello, Thanks for writing to HCM, I've gone through your query and understand your concern, Your father findings may suggest that physical problem is due to both long term side effects of diabetes mellitus (diabetic neuropathy) and lumbar canal stenosis. His sufferings has been aggravated due to combined effect of these two conditions as both conditions affects nerves. Still it is a partially reversible condition. Diabetes mellitus need to be in controlled stage.He may need strict diet control and medicines. He may also need physiotherapy. He also need evaluation by a neurosurgeon.I suggest for decompression at L5-S1 level.It can be done percutaneous endoscopic operation. Let me explain point wise. 1.Your dad's leg condition is due to combined effects of diabetes mellitus and lumbar canal stenosis. 2.Your dad's walking condition may improve after decompression and physiotherpy. 3.It is a partially reversible condition. 4.It is expected that his problems aggravate during standing. 5.Axonal motor sensory neuropathy is involvement of both sensory and motor nerves.Due to this he has both sensory(caries sensory) and motor(related to active movement and power)components. 6.I am sure that he will walk again even with a Zimmer/Walking Stick. 7.We have discussed earlier. 8.It is difficult to comment on driving but we shouldn't expect much as diabetic neuropathy doesn't respond much. 9.He may need both conservative treatment and intervention like endoscopic decompression operation for stenosis. Get well soon. Hope I have answered your query. Further queries are most welcome. Take Care Dr. Indu XXXXXXX